"Anonymous. Do you really believe a world class celebrity would use a word that is not being used in the trade. What about the producers of the tape. considering the tape is to be sold all over the world is it possible they would use words or instructions that weren't a 100 percent correct."

I know that world class teachers make mistakes and mis-use dance terminology because I've had them do it in my lessons. And seen them do it on tapes. But I don't consider the fact that someone makes mistakes or mis-speaks to mean that they are wrong. It simply means that they are human.

"If we stood square to the centre and I rotate to diagnal to the centre. The lady does not change her shape she is still on my right hip."

Well there's your problem. Outside partner/CBMP requires a shape change - it has its own specific stretches.

Anonymous.Your teacher might use a word incorrectly . But not on a tape that goes world wide and has been around for a few years. Do you correct your teachers when they use a word incorrectly.I would. I would politely say. I don't quite get that. Can you explain that once again. It is unlikely though that a teacher who has taught thousands of people would use an incorrect word when discribing something in dancing.
Can you put into writting. You can do like I do and freeze frame my favourite dancer. Put into writting exactly where you are when you step outside your partner in CBMP. I'll start you off.
Just you in a solo position.
The right foot is level with the left shoulder. It can be a toe or a heel.

"Your teacher might use a word incorrectly . But not on a tape that goes world wide and has been around for a few years."

Yes, even on such a tape.

"Do you correct your teachers when they use a word incorrectly.I would. I would politely say. I don't quite get that. Can you explain that once again. It is unlikely though that a teacher who has taught thousands of people would use an incorrect word when discribing something in dancing."

What was said was absolutely incorrect in terms of orthadox technique and terminology, but it did not cloud the meaning at all. If anything, it illustrated some of how that teacher thinks about things. The things that were mispoken were not considered distinctions of importance - some concepts had been confused, but the lesson was about the commonalities between them.

"Put into writting exactly where you are when you step outside your partner in CBMP."

Already done many times, as I'm sure you will recognize.

We are still in front of each other with offset as normal, but our right hips are creased back somewhat (more so on a lowered action than on a risen action such as a feather) and our left sides are strongly forward. If it's a step one or step three action, it is also likely that the right shoulder will be forward of the right hip.

"The right foot is level with the left shoulder. It can be a toe or a heel."

At one particular point in the action, sure. But there's a lot more to the story than that. One of my coaches puts what you are describing as taking the right knee to the left shoulder. And by the way, teaches that this should be done for natural CBM, as well as promenade and outside partner CBMP.

Anonymous. What I was after was a simple.
The left shoulder is in place
' The right foot is level with the left shoulder.
The weight is over the left foot.
The right shoulder is over the right hip.
Is that what you see.

"Anonymous. What I was after was a simple.
The left shoulder is in place
' The right foot is level with the left shoulder.
The weight is over the left foot.
The right shoulder is over the right hip.
Is that what you see."

And you get a simple answer:

"NO"

Anonymous.
The left shoulder is in place
The right foot is level with
the left shoulder.
The body is over the left foot
The right shoulder is over the
right hip.
The weight is passing through.
There is no twisting of the spine
at any stage.
Have you had time to ask your ill
advises.

WRONG.

And besides, what you have described, even if it were right, would be only one frame of the video. A step is a SEQUENCE OF ACTIONS, during which many things evolve. You totally missed that when I pointed it out.

Anonymous.
CBMP is
Left shoulder in place.
Right foot level with left shoulder
Weight over Left foot
Right shoulder over right hip

This could be third step of the
Feather or a Feather Finish both
are the same. The step is rather
static and is refered to as a foot
position only.
It might also be the fourth step
for the lady in a Reverse Weave in
the Waltz,
This step has a heel lead with
more drive. After all it is a
heel lead and heel leads usually
drive.
Lastly Anonymous You said . Even
if it were right. It is right
there are no if it were's

Anonymous. Sometimes you just don't seem to understand because you have some preconceived idea in your head. So lets put it this way. John Wayne in this movie is up wind to his partner.Keeping exactly the same distance between them they turn 1/2 a turn. Now who is up wind. It isn't John Wayne is it. It shouldn't be neccessary to have to give such a childish example.

"Anonymous. Sometimes you just don't seem to understand because you have some preconceived idea in your head. So lets put it this way. John Wayne in this movie is up wind to his partner.Keeping exactly the same distance between them they turn 1/2 a turn. Now who is up wind. It isn't John Wayne is it. It shouldn't be neccessary to have to give such a childish example."

On the contrary, the are both in exactly the same positions they started in, only each facing in a different direction. If they are some distance apart that would be obvious to you.

Now perhaps you meant that instead of each turning in place, the rotated around a common center. The problem is that if that is what you mean, then what you are describing is not an entry into CBMP/outside partner position, but actually a TURNING FIGURE.

And the whole argument started when I pointed out that you MUST NOT PASS YOUR PARTNER IN A NON-TURNING FIGURE.

If it's a turning figure, then yes, by all means, you may pass your partner.

If you wish to describe a non-turning figure, then you will have to stop using the word "turn" !